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UK Riots – roundup of last night’s events

Wednesday, 10 August, 2011 Leave a comment Go to comments

Prime Minister David Cameron spoke again at 11am on Sky News. In his speech, he praised the efforts of police and said: “A more robust approach resulted in calmer streets in London overnight”. He went on to say “these scenes are not acceptable, [this] culture of fear cannot exist on our streets”. If riots continue, Cameron claimed that police tactics will have to change.

The aftermath of the fire at Party Party Party in Clapham. Courtesy of Bayerberg, Flickr.

Alan Campbell, former Public Order Minister, warned that water cannons may be needed if disturbances persist. Merseyside Police confirmed that officers dealt with a number of outbreaks of disorder in Liverpool South, Sefton and Wirral overnight. They say that: “[The disorder] was the result of a minority of young people engaged in criminal activity”.

A BBC reporter at Highbury Magistrates Court, John Brain, told BBC 5 live: “The first person who appeared in the dock this morning was a 31-year-old teacher called Alexis Bailey. He pleaded guilty to being part of the looting of the Richer Sounds store in Croydon”. The Comet (local newspaper) reports that vehicles were set ablaze in Stevenage last night, with residents fearing the spread of inner-city violence to the town and police reacting to events by stepping up patrols. A historic pub in Bedfordshire has been destroyed in a suspected arson attack, reports the BBC. The fire broke out at about 00:15 BST at the Grade II listed Norman King pub in Church Street, Dunstable, police said.

Public opinion on politicians’ handling of the riots is almost universally poor. While 91% of people polled overnight by YouGov thought it was right that Prime Minister Cameron & London’s mayor Boris Johnson had returned from their holidays, they were generally seen as having handled the riots badly so far. Only 28% approved of Cameron & Home Secretary Theresa May’s actions. 24% thought Boris had done well.

People were divided about the police response over the last three days; 52% approved of the police response, but a large minority (43%) thought they’d done badly. When asked if the police should be able to use heavier tactics, the public came up with numerous gung-ho responses. 90% of people thought they should be able to use water cannon; 84% mounted police; 82% curfews; 78% tear gas; 72% tasers; 65% plastic bullets; and 33% thought that police should clear the streets with live ammunition. 77% thought that the army should be drafted in to assist.

Meanwhile, a local business owner in Ealing is organising a flower collection for a man who was hospitalised by rioters after he attempted to put out a fire. More details from the rest of the country as we receive them.

  1. Charlotte
    Wednesday, 10 August, 2011 at 2:12 PM

    33% thought that police should clear the streets with live ammunition!!!!…lol

    • Frank
      Thursday, 11 August, 2011 at 3:36 AM

      Hilarious – gotta love some of the ‘The-Get-Tough-On-Crime” nutters! I can imagine the headlines: “Police Shoot Dead Teenage Ipod Thief”

  2. H
    Wednesday, 10 August, 2011 at 2:13 PM

    Congratulations on your brilliant coverage, keep up the good work.

  3. Wednesday, 10 August, 2011 at 2:25 PM

    thats a joke! if they were to use a more heavy handed approach they would have been accused of totalitarianism!

  4. FM
    Wednesday, 10 August, 2011 at 2:28 PM

    I hope your futures at this blog is bright. This work has to be appericated and honoured.

  5. Yazz
    Wednesday, 10 August, 2011 at 2:49 PM

    best blog around, Thank you very much! constant relevant updates, told everyone about it as you just don’t hear anything specific on the news for your area apart from town centres. Finding it hard to locate a petrol station because they’ve all shut.
    Im all for the tough approach.
    But I think what’s important is that solutions are implemented to give these youngsters the upbringing they need. They don’t have role models, nothing to do, no future to look forward to and no one to teach them morals and put some sense into their head. Where do people think these kids should get this from? Yes bring them to justice but what will they do to prevent a generation full of thugs and ‘no goods’? Government will just ‘ground’ them and give them a tag and hope they grow out of it. Doesn’t work! They already have nothing to lose, of course they going to run wild first chance they get. England had it coming, kids been stabbing each other in daylight anyway. What makes you think they wont burn a house down or loot a shop?

  6. rob
    Wednesday, 10 August, 2011 at 3:23 PM

    the bankers are stealing everyones wealth

    these kids are doing the same just on a smaller scale

    and the middle class complains

    (I completely condemn the loss of life, violence, racist vigilantism)

    but where was the the uproar when the financiers erased all your savings on a much grander scale ?

    the lower class is rising up, they are a lot more brave than the complacent apathetic middle

    unfortunately the misguided attacks on local business, hurt the community

    rather than joining with the middle class to get rid of the bankers, stock traders, and those who are truly in power / control the police

    hows living in an orwellian police state treating you ?

    • d
      Wednesday, 10 August, 2011 at 3:38 PM

      i appreciate what you’ve said rob but, as a ‘lower class’ citizen who passionately believes this country needs some sort of ‘revolution’ to grow i dont consider the thugs responsible for the rioting are in the least bit brave – quite the opposite – they’re just criminals and opportunists – as much a symptom of the sad state of the country as the money grabbing bankers.

    • joe 1965
      Wednesday, 10 August, 2011 at 4:21 PM

      the ‘middle class’ complain – what are you on – just about the whole of the working class are complaining too- the figures are from a public opinion poll from a cross-section of society- talking abnout middle class – you’re probably some middle class lefty yourself most of the aplogists are.

      • rob
        Wednesday, 10 August, 2011 at 5:01 PM

        let me guess you supported the Arab Spring a few months ago.

        you supported lower class disenfranchised rising up against an oppressive regime.

        now that twitter and blackberrys are being used in your back yard, it’s suddenly thugs and chavs disrupting things

        why don’t you stand with your poor neighbors in solidarity, and enact some real change in the system

        sadly the youths decided to steal electronics rather than raid / takeover the state run media outlets

        I feel like this is just an echo of what is to come, I hope my friends and family are all safe in the chaos that is bubbling up

    • craig
      Wednesday, 10 August, 2011 at 6:10 PM

      couldn’t agree more well said.

  7. Raj
    Wednesday, 10 August, 2011 at 3:32 PM

    I’ve been following u for 2 days now and think you are going a great job well done , I’d just like to say one thing for example a certain link to you tube has connection EDL BNP and other far right groups , I’m not saying they r ur views but in times such as these to stop any escalation in violence please be careful coz all ur good work could be undone in a flash ! Thanks once again x

    • Annabelle
      Wednesday, 10 August, 2011 at 6:10 PM

      Considering BNP probably would never let him in due to his enthinity, it might quickly be discredited, but it is a good thing to look at the sources!

      • Raj
        Wednesday, 10 August, 2011 at 9:25 PM

        U have very valid point 🙂 I thought I’d mention it

  8. EffDa50
    Wednesday, 10 August, 2011 at 3:40 PM

    I have been constantly refreshing your page since everything started and sending the link to friends. Your doing a great job and keep it up. From enfield.

  9. Stuart Green
    Wednesday, 10 August, 2011 at 3:48 PM

    Excellent, speedy, accurate reporting written in great humour. I kept asking myself how you consistently beat all the major news outlets to the story. Incredible job.


  10. Amanda Thompson
    Wednesday, 10 August, 2011 at 4:19 PM

    What a sad state of affairs all this is. We are living in a world where discipline and respect have all but vanished. Parents can’t discipline their kids, teachers can’t discipline children they teach and the police cannot use ‘force’. If they do they are the ones who end up in court!!!
    There is a difference between discipline and abuse, but now that line is so thin (according to the powers that be), that what can anyone do to prevent what’s happening???
    Everyone says it’s the parents fault but if they lock their kids in or dare to physically punish them to prevent them turning out like thugs then that’s abuse! Bring back the discipline of the past and maybe society will be more peaceful.
    BTW this is by far the best blog for regular updates on these riots keep it up!!

  11. Jamesie Cotter Esq.
    Wednesday, 10 August, 2011 at 4:20 PM

    We hear a lot about the bankers and how damaging a 50p tax will be for wealth creation. We hear far less about what ‘taxes’ the low paid have to endure. Here’s a little list which may go some way to explain how angry people are in the inner cities for all you Notting Hill and Ealing yuppies:

    Housing benefit ceiling – forcing families to re-locate to distant areas or pay an astronomical rent to stay in thier own neighbourhood.

    Credit cards – Need a new washing machine/cooker? That’ll cost you 30% or more in credit charges if you’re not rolling in cash from a Buy-To-Let scheme.

    Food – Rises. Petrol – Rises.Utility service – HIKES. All this bearing down on the poor. No wonder people are angry when they are forced to pay through the nose for necessities.

    • d
      Wednesday, 10 August, 2011 at 4:29 PM

      I’m a teaching assistant at a school in london and what really pees me off are the parents getting free school meals and this benefit and that benefit but that have the latest clothes, phones etc and take their kids abroad every year………i wish i could afford to do the same for mine……..the benefit culture is one that has to be addressed…….

      there is no excuse for looting and damaging from people in the same boat as you……its just plain wrong and should not be excused…..

      as for housing benefit – stop landlords charging outrageous rents for crap accommodation and there would be no need for housing benefit.

      • Amanda Thompson
        Wednesday, 10 August, 2011 at 4:46 PM

        I can never work out how that happens?? When I split up with my 1st husband I was left on benefits having given up work when our 2nd child was born. I was finding it really tough to get by on benefits, so I am sure that all these guys who are on benefits and have latest this, that and on foreign Hols have money coming in on the side from somewhere and this is an issue that really should be clamped down on to ensure that the only ones getting benefits are the ones who truthfully need them to get by, as some people really are left on benefits through no fault of their own – happy to report that my time on benefits was only shortlived!

  12. Andy
    Wednesday, 10 August, 2011 at 4:28 PM

    rob :
    the lower class is rising up, they are a lot more brave than the complacent apathetic middle

    brave? are you joking? if anything they just had less to lose, it’s easy to stand up for something the less you have to lose, never forget that. i don’t think that was even the case here though, they were teenagers doing it for a laugh and to cause chaos, imbred scum.

  13. emily
    Wednesday, 10 August, 2011 at 4:51 PM

    We need more updates, you’re doing a great job is there anyone else updating tonight or do you think all will be well in London?

    • Linda George
      Wednesday, 10 August, 2011 at 4:55 PM

      I was about to ask the same thing.

      I’m supposed to be in Regents park playing soft ball tonight, fingers crossed it all stays ok but at least we’ll have bats if it does kick off and we need to protect ourselves!

  14. d
    Wednesday, 10 August, 2011 at 4:53 PM

    @ amanda thompson……i totally agree……the benefits system is there for those that truly need it……i remember being in the same situation as you a while back and i was absolutely skint! mind you…..i don’t think i would ever have used that as an excuse to loot and get a new tv or pair of trainers.

    i just hope those that are being prosecuted will really have to ‘pay for the crime’.

    • Amanda Thompson
      Wednesday, 10 August, 2011 at 5:02 PM

      I hope so too – I wouldn’t have minded a new tv or trainers at that time as things were a struggle, but only if they had come my way by honest means (like winning a comp or something)

      People are using too many excuses for why they are doing this. There is no excuse, others are just as poor or poorer and not turning to crime and in the long run this looting will most likely cost us all as insurance will go up and the costs of goods and services as businesses recoup their losses, and what about council tax? Will that not now increase to pay for the policing, fire services and the councils part in the cleanup?

  15. James
    Wednesday, 10 August, 2011 at 5:20 PM

    Mr. Cameron said: quote ” [this] culture of fear cannot exist on our streets”” unquote?

    But in the houses? OK?

  16. Ray
    Wednesday, 10 August, 2011 at 5:29 PM

    Our police force should have access to, and be permitted to use, extrreme force is these situations. As soon as a person commits a crime they forego their “right” to use the human rights card.

  17. Sam
    Wednesday, 10 August, 2011 at 5:58 PM

    Will you be covering tonight?

  18. Jkontheturn
    Wednesday, 10 August, 2011 at 6:02 PM

    Excellent coverage. Much quicker than the press. One opinion coud you put up the google maps on a more regular basis. I have a lot of family up there and its good to know where the hot spots are. Keep up the good work.

  19. Gen
    Wednesday, 10 August, 2011 at 6:11 PM

    Your coverage has been more detailed than any other source I’ve seen – fine work.

    I would have liked to see the army used, but not for force in any violent way – simply as a visible, discouraging presence. I think seeing a solid formation of 200 soldiers in green at the end of the street would be a lot more cowing to rioters than the 8 or 10 police I saw in one video, advancing carefully then fleeing from a furious Woolwich mob. But using brute, retaliative force might have crushed the riots sooner, but it would have a very damaging effect on the various causes of this mayhem in the long term.

    What’s been difficult to separate is the obvious anger of some of the participants – the sentiment that the police ‘can do what they like’, and the apathy these people have vocalised – from the wanton greed and excitement at the damage caused. Some of the looters spoke about these events in the same excited way that festival-goers or carnival crowds talk about their weekends, rather than expressing any kind of politicised, solidified anger at whatever triggered them.

  20. Aiden
    Wednesday, 10 August, 2011 at 6:35 PM

    Excellent, fast and informative coverage of a horrific time. You’ve done a great job with this site. I hope the criminals involved in the past few day’s rioting and looting get what they deserve and feel thoroughly ashamed of themselves (though many probably won’t).

    It’s interesting that this kicked off during the middle of the summer holidays, maybe people will see what a tough job teachers are doing in schools and what difficult situations and pupils they have to deal with on a daily basis.

  21. S
    Wednesday, 10 August, 2011 at 6:43 PM

    I think the console games such as Grand Auto Theft are partly to blame as well.

  22. Earnest
    Wednesday, 10 August, 2011 at 11:03 PM

    How about “white collar crime”: Loose their human rights card? How discern? Ah, they seem to be luckier.

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